Isolation

Isolation

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“Teems”, Davy, “teems”! Our language is fragile and urgently needs your nurture.

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    Thanks for your input Chinaman Creek. The word I used here was teams and is deliberate. It is to show the person looking out of the window looks down on the world below and sees a world of togetherness (life together as a collection of teams) which furthers their isolation. I think in the writing world they refer to it as a play on words. See e e cummings for further examples. I also deliberately left out the punctuation so the reader could draw their own conclusions. Thank you for taking time out to read and comment.

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      Dear Davy, how stupid of me! Yes, teeming “teams” that gather (in their unconscious, shared assumptions) against your isolated, excluded watcher (which sometimes feels like me!). A deft touch on your part.

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      Not stupid. The joy of poetry is in the interpretation and I sometimes think the rules and words are there to be played with. What are your thoughts as to whether a piece of poetry should come with an introduction outlining the poets thoughts and processes? It is a conversation I have been having with other poets. Thank you for your thoughts.

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      Dear Davy: Three thoughts on your question. Firstly, I don’t believe in poets, only poems. If poets do exist, they do so as a by-product or after-effect. Secondly, the American William Stafford once wrote “It tells you; all you do is tell about it”. To me this means that “It” is the one that really knows the ins and outs of a poem’s meaning. Needless to say, it is not available for comment! Thirdly, anyone who lives poetry occasionally has a wonderful moment of new insight into an old favourite line. I worry that explaining things in advance might rob us of this magical pleasure. Many thanks for your wisdom: I see that the Chinese character you use (hīu in Cantonese) means “owlet”!

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      Simon, thank you for these interesting and thought provoking thoughts. This is a conversation we have been having in our network for a few months now and I like your thought of having the magical pleasure of finding something in a poem. Maybe our choice on this is linked to personality? I enjoy knowing about the poet and sometimes a little bio of the poem adds to the poetry. I have just read “In Search of Poetry” by Richard Murphy which is a collection of his sonnets. Each one is preceded by his diary entries and thoughts leading to the poem. It provides a different aspect and approach to poetry. I think mood may also play a part. Thanks also for the Cantonese interpretation of the character. I borrowed it from the Japanese kanji interpretation for Owl. It symbolizes flying around seeking wisdom which is the essence of my journey through poetry and this blog. Thank you for your thoughts and so glad we stumbled across each other.

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Whoever said iron bars do not make a cage (Richard Lovelace I believe) had probably never been behind them. Your metaphor fits perfectly with your title, Davy, to create a truly powerful and moving image.

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    I like the phrase your have mentioned Roland and your are right there are many ways we can become caged. Loneliness is something hard to believe in modern society. How can it be with a populations increasing that loneliness is also on the rise. Thank you for your valued comments.

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I think Roland’s summed it up perfectly Davy. For me also I like how the subject is looking down on the street which makes me think of subconscious self-imposed isolation or perhaps of those who find themselves in positions of power, where they have to be cold & detached in a way that is not really them, to fulfil their role.

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    Thank you for your thoughts Nigel and both of your translations work well. I never thought about the power side, but you are right many, people I have met with money and power suffer different types of isolation. It was always the hardest part of my job as a police officer meeting and dealing with people who were isolated and lonely. As I said to Roland, I could never get over the fact surrounded by so many people someone could be isolated.

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Love this, Davy, and much food for thought. Iron bars, keeping people or keeping people out – either way, it’s a struggle both physically and mentally.

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Very well done… you said a lot with only a few words!
Dwight

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Oh my goodness, you’ve captured the emotion and the state of mind. Powerful writing, Davy.

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You’ve captured this perfectly, Davy!

Many people today feel left out, isolated, not belonging to any group of people/don’t feel like they fit in. ‘Tis sad. 😦 Even in our world of active social media, studies show that a lot of people feel even lonelier, and isolated, today than they did 15 years ago. 😦

They have even coined a term “FOMO”…”Fear Of Missing Out”. They say that is why a lot of young people constantly check their Facebook, Instagram, SnapChat, etc. They are so worried they are going to be left out of something.

I am a very friendly, extroverted person and I live in a rural area and small town. Everyone smiles and speaks to everyone and we open doors for each other, etc.
But I have lived in huge cities where people have their eyes “glued” to their cell phones or they are listening to music on their iPod and they don’t make eye contact with anyone or smile at anyone or speak to anyone. 😦

(((HUGS))) 🙂

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    Thank you for these thoughts Carolyn. I think you are right. The rise of social media is creating a different kind of isolation. There was someone being interviewed on the radio who was asked how many of their 1000’s of followers they knew or had met. The answer was very few. Human contact is part of our survival instinct and I think we are creating a culture where isolation is being rewarded rather than being discouraged.

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      Years ago, (in the 1980’s ) (Yes, I was just a baby back then Ha! 😉 :-P) I heard a woman speak about the decades ahead of us and she said one day people will be able to do most anything and everything from home/via computer: shop, order food to be delivered, talk to family and friends across the world, work, do business, pay bills, etc.

      Those of us listening to her were amazed and kinda’ thinking it was too far fetched. Yet, now we are living it. 😮 (Shock face!)

      She said with being able to do a lot of things from home, people would begin to cocoon. She called it cocooning. And it wouldn’t be good, because people need human contact…look into another person’s eyes, hugs, laugh together, cry together, etc.

      Wow! Every trend/change she predicted w-a-y back then has come true. Wild!

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      She sounds like an interesting lady Carolyn. This is a very interesting topic. There is always a danger of being cocooned and being drawn in by modern technology as it allows us to connect with many people. But I think the secret is balance, ensuring you use it sensibly and not forget connect face to face with people. Thank you for these thoughts Carolyn.

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      Her name is Faith Popcorn. You can google (giggle or gaggle 😀 ) her. She’s a very interesting lady. It was cool to hear her speak.

      Yes, balance IS the key. 🙂

      You’re welcome, Davy! 🙂

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      Thank you for this Carolyn. I love her already with a name like that. I will giggle her later today, in the research sense of course 🙂

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This hit me in the mind. Powerful scene powerful feelings erupt as one readers. That feeling rises in your throat of helplessness.
Your little verses are loaded , Davy.

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Davy, a very strong poem. The picture, title and poem creates a strong emotion of exclusion, being barred in by circumstances whatever they might be. We all deep down crave togetherness and being alone should never be confused with loneliness.
So it is to wished that all could find their team and break down those bars.
Miriam

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    I love the way you have phrased this Miriam and thank you for your thoughts. Maybe if we thought of ourselves as one big team, and I refer to people and nature, we might be able to work together and make the earth a better place. You are right about confusing being alone with loneliness. Sometimes being alone is a choice. I know at times I prefer my own company and like the solitude to write and gather my thoughts. Thank you for your words Miriam and maybe a conversation we could take into Thursdays if you are ok with this?

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      I am very glad that you want to take these thoughts into further discussion on Thursday. Where does the discussion take place?
      Is it Her, on your blog?
      Miriam

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      Miriam, the Thursday posts on my blog are Thursday Thoughts about poetry or visits to other peoples blogs. I think this is a thought I would like to feature later in April / May time. I would also like to do a feature on your blog and excellent poetry later in the year, if you are happy for me to do that.

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Davy D as I like calling you as it rhymes.:) I now realise I have taken part in those discussions already with glee. I am greatly honoured that you wish to do a feature of my blog some time later this year. Wow, as the kids say. I will when the time comes take your guidance in this.

Looking forward to your Thursday discussion.
Very sunny greetings from my retreat in Sweden

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There is more loneliness in the world today than ever before, despite the amount of people. The world has lost the sense of community and of helping others . A lot of people would rather take a photo than help a person. Just me being the old cynic.

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    I think you are right Fiona and thank you for offering the thought. It seems the world is more obsessed with how many likes it gets although there are still plenty of people prepared to help others.

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I spend a lot of time alone during the day when my son is at school. And I’m haunted by the fact that he’s growing up and that this will be a big change for me, after having raised four kids. But I think I’ll figure it all out because when I do leave the house to go shopping, I reach out to people with a smile and conversation, if they’re open to it. I like that balance of solitude and social connection. I won’t deny, though, that during the times I’m alone, the isolation can weigh heavy.

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    I think balance is the right word Laura and thank you for your thoughts. Sometimes I like the crowd and sometimes I enjoy the isolation. Too much of one or the other comes with its own barriers. Like you say I think we get to work it out in the end. Hope all is well.

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Have you ever watched a show called Black Mirrors? There is an episode which gives an excellent incite of how, if we continue the way we are going, “likes” and phones will be a survival mechanism. Black comedy but with a hint of truth.

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Davy, this is such a really great post! You have really captured the feelings and emotions of Isolation, whether forced or self imposed! Actually, so many put their own invisible bars around themselves and do what Carolyn mentioned in her comment – Cocooning!
Bravo, My Friend!

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Reblogged this on The Reluctant Poet and commented:
Come read DaveD’s insightful post that reminds us “Isolation” isn’t always caused by iron bars! Please check out Davy’s great backlog in his Archives!!!

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